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Well, I've been back into reading lots of theory on pornography this week. As I'm doing this with a mind to writing on fandom, I'm constantly applying the things I'm reading to my fandom experience.
And well, in my fandom experience, it seems as if the iconography or tropes that crop up in NC-17 slash stories aren't straight across the board. Or rather, there are varieties of flavours for different fandoms, certain images crop up more often than others.
So, here's a poll. I've lj-cut it because of the not work-safe language used. That said, NC-17 slash afficionados, I'd appreciate it if you filled out the following poll. At this point, it's only for my own interest, to see if I'm just imagining patterns or not.
First, a little more explanation. What spurred this particular line of thinking on was reading about the money shot. Here's wikipedia's entry on what they've termed the 'Cum shot', but in essence (heh heh, essence) the money shot is that shot in hard core porn films of the ejaculating penis. The semiotics behind it are theorised to be focused on the spectacle of the male orgasm, the visible evidence of climax (because of course, you can't film a woman's orgasm, hah). It is often extremely gratuitous, filmed in close-up, slow motion, etc. Because of the need for it to be a *visible* climax, another characteristic of the money shot is that the man is ejaculating all over someone (or something) else. If it is the climax of a sex scene, the penis will withdraw from whatever orifice it is thrusting into and ejaculate onto the outside of the other person's body. It's not surprising that this particular trope is associated with male power, a very aggressive expression of the power of the phallus; the (most oft female) recipient of all that spooge is quite grateful and overwhelmed with arousal at all the bodily fluids being spurted onto them. In other words, it's extremely gratuitous and fetishised and very much characteristic of hard-core (film) pornography up until about the 80s.
So, what I'm getting at is: I've been in about... 6-odd fandoms in the past 4+ years. at least four of them have been major fandoms, some even mega-fandoms. I have read so, so much slash. My point is, I've had some variety in experience of slash in different fandoms (even if I *do* have character types that I tend to pick up on).
And the Supernatural slash? Seems to really have a thing for the money shot. Like, hard-core money shot. Not just the mutual masturbation with-come-ending-up-on-the-other-person, but really fetishised, pulling-out-at-the-last-minute-to-come-on buttocks/back/chest/belly/face, even bukkake-style scenarios. It isn't in every story I've read, but it certainly isn't rare.
And it's not like I've never read money shots in other fandoms, but I'm pretty damn sure they didn't crop up as frequently. It was several years ago now, but I'm pretty sure I don't recall reading *any* money shots in hobbitslash, and if there were any in Lotrips, it was always acknowledged as a kind of kink - a non-vanilla practice. Whereas in Supernatural, it's pretty par for the course (already-broken taboo of incest, perhaps?).
So, enough of the terminology and speculation, lets get down to what I made this post for: to mine your collective experience in slash fandoms. If you've read a lot of NC-17 slash, preferably in at least two different fandoms, please take the following poll.
For the record, I tend to consider things a 'trend' when I can recall them cropping up in more than one place, but I can't necessarily remember each individual occurence. It happens enough times that I notice it, and can't say "oh yeah, X did it, and then Y did it." (though, you might be more fandom sociable than me, in which case ignore that last bit.)
For the purposes of this poll, we'll just think about m/m slash, as opposed to slash and het (and femslash), unless you'd like to discuss the money shot in any of these 'genres' in the comments :)
If you have more than one current fandom, pick the major one. If there is a large discrepancy of answers you'd give between different current fandoms, TELL ME ALL ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS, PLIS!
[Poll #767548]
Please, PLEASE feel free to comment away! DISCUSS. Go.
PS. feel free to pimp this around if you're interested too.
And well, in my fandom experience, it seems as if the iconography or tropes that crop up in NC-17 slash stories aren't straight across the board. Or rather, there are varieties of flavours for different fandoms, certain images crop up more often than others.
So, here's a poll. I've lj-cut it because of the not work-safe language used. That said, NC-17 slash afficionados, I'd appreciate it if you filled out the following poll. At this point, it's only for my own interest, to see if I'm just imagining patterns or not.
First, a little more explanation. What spurred this particular line of thinking on was reading about the money shot. Here's wikipedia's entry on what they've termed the 'Cum shot', but in essence (heh heh, essence) the money shot is that shot in hard core porn films of the ejaculating penis. The semiotics behind it are theorised to be focused on the spectacle of the male orgasm, the visible evidence of climax (because of course, you can't film a woman's orgasm, hah). It is often extremely gratuitous, filmed in close-up, slow motion, etc. Because of the need for it to be a *visible* climax, another characteristic of the money shot is that the man is ejaculating all over someone (or something) else. If it is the climax of a sex scene, the penis will withdraw from whatever orifice it is thrusting into and ejaculate onto the outside of the other person's body. It's not surprising that this particular trope is associated with male power, a very aggressive expression of the power of the phallus; the (most oft female) recipient of all that spooge is quite grateful and overwhelmed with arousal at all the bodily fluids being spurted onto them. In other words, it's extremely gratuitous and fetishised and very much characteristic of hard-core (film) pornography up until about the 80s.
So, what I'm getting at is: I've been in about... 6-odd fandoms in the past 4+ years. at least four of them have been major fandoms, some even mega-fandoms. I have read so, so much slash. My point is, I've had some variety in experience of slash in different fandoms (even if I *do* have character types that I tend to pick up on).
And the Supernatural slash? Seems to really have a thing for the money shot. Like, hard-core money shot. Not just the mutual masturbation with-come-ending-up-on-the-other-person, but really fetishised, pulling-out-at-the-last-minute-to-come-on buttocks/back/chest/belly/face, even bukkake-style scenarios. It isn't in every story I've read, but it certainly isn't rare.
And it's not like I've never read money shots in other fandoms, but I'm pretty damn sure they didn't crop up as frequently. It was several years ago now, but I'm pretty sure I don't recall reading *any* money shots in hobbitslash, and if there were any in Lotrips, it was always acknowledged as a kind of kink - a non-vanilla practice. Whereas in Supernatural, it's pretty par for the course (already-broken taboo of incest, perhaps?).
So, enough of the terminology and speculation, lets get down to what I made this post for: to mine your collective experience in slash fandoms. If you've read a lot of NC-17 slash, preferably in at least two different fandoms, please take the following poll.
For the record, I tend to consider things a 'trend' when I can recall them cropping up in more than one place, but I can't necessarily remember each individual occurence. It happens enough times that I notice it, and can't say "oh yeah, X did it, and then Y did it." (though, you might be more fandom sociable than me, in which case ignore that last bit.)
For the purposes of this poll, we'll just think about m/m slash, as opposed to slash and het (and femslash), unless you'd like to discuss the money shot in any of these 'genres' in the comments :)
If you have more than one current fandom, pick the major one. If there is a large discrepancy of answers you'd give between different current fandoms, TELL ME ALL ABOUT IT IN THE COMMENTS, PLIS!
[Poll #767548]
Please, PLEASE feel free to comment away! DISCUSS. Go.
PS. feel free to pimp this around if you're interested too.