*snortgiggle*

[hope]

The academic book I'm reading on Star Wars fandom just referenced maygra.

I fucking love fandom so hard. It just takes the occassional prodding to remind me just why and how much.

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[kitsune-red.livejournal.com]

^__^

[maygra.livejournal.com]

Whaaaa? Huh?

[hope]

In a chapter called 'Slash and Other Stories', in a sub-section called "Partly Angst... Definitely first time" (that subtitle's a paraphrasing of someone's author notes):

Within slash, there are multiple subcategories... AU includes crossover stories... but there are also variants on the Phantom Menace narrative like... Maygra's Faithless, which is prefaced with the instructions, "Take the film, stop at the 'scene' and turn left. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are taken prisoner by Darth Maul." The "scene" here is the duel between the Jedi and Darth Maul; rather than continue with the Phantom Menace plot, Maygra makes a deliberate departure and admits "from that point forward it's all AU." [footnoted 356]

[footnote 356]: Archived at Maygra's Musings, 7parabian.com/Maygra/Musings/swtpn/

Will Brooker didn't ask permission/send acknowledgement? This was published in 2002.

[maygra.livejournal.com]

Not that I recall, I don't recognize the name (which is possible he was operating under a speud.) I had all the SW stuff locked down pretty hard when Lucas started up again with the C&D's after phantom menace came out. It's possible I agreed if I thought it was part of a research paper that then got turned into a book.

But if it was published 4 years ago, and nothing's happened, I'm guessing it's nothing to worry about. Just...weird.

[hope]

tis a bit weird. in the interests of scholarly ethics, I'd think he'd not be using a pseudonym, but who knows? everyone does things differently with new media, it seems.

A goodly portion of the book is on 'creativity and star wars', which makes me wonder what kind of stuff it alone stirred up... possibly i need to read the introduction to find out *g*

Anyway. was cool to see your name in there :D

[sharpest_rose.livejournal.com]

I haven't read that particular book, but other things of Will Brooker's I've seen have contained some fairly unethical uses of internet resources, so I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't ask permission.

[hope]

hah, indeed. I thought you might have some knowledge of his methodology.

[frollo.livejournal.com]

Ah, this old problem raises its head again. My personal opinion is that if the 'resource' is free and available on the internet then the only acknowledgement required is the usual sort, i.e author, date, url etc. I don't see the point in asking permission to quote something on the net. If I quote/reference a book do I need to write to the author to ask permission first? Unless the resource was personal communication (e.g, email), or of a particularly personal nature, I feel that the fact that most fic/blogs/discussion are freely accessible by anyone with a computer and an internet connection means it is essentially 'out there' so to speak. At least Brooker acknowledged the pseudonym and url, which is surely all that many who read the fic know of its author anyway, despite your own obviously more intimate relationship with the author?

I know that many disagree with me. I'm curious to know your opinion on this. Are things posted on the net in a special category?


(BTW, I think Brooker's work is often, um... less academically rigorous than it could be).

[lea-ndra.livejournal.com]

But if it was published 4 years ago, and nothing's happened, I'm guessing it's nothing to worry about.

I don't think anything has ever happened to anyone who got mentioned in a research paper or book. Funnily enough, I can't remember a single incident in which Lucas sent out a C&D to a fan fiction author. Fan films are sanctioned, they even sponsor them, but other copyright infringements, especially merchandise and official novels - they're very hard on them. I think they get the difference between "written for fun" and "trying to sell it via Amazon".

and how cool - I didn't recognize you from TPM fandom - and I didn't recall your name from the "Using the Force" book, but anyway: why didn't I check you were in TPM fandom back in the days? I need to check out your stories, see if I've read them.

[slashfairy.livejournal.com]

yuss!

[gekizetsu.livejournal.com]

No. Fucking. Way.

At least someone's smart enough to reference her in their books. XD

[hope]

well, YALL ARE GOING IN MY BOOKS. when I write them, one day. *sigh*

[lea-ndra.livejournal.com]

"Using the Force" was a good read - I enjoyed how he portrayed the slash fandom (and well, it was MY fandom, I HAD to have that book when it came out).

What other books do you have on fan fiction and fandom?

I bet Jenkins (his new book is just out and I'm dying to read it, but will wait until I have more money), I bet Hall, I bet Brown...