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Fic: Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps (SPN)
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angstslashhope
Rating: NC-17
Pairing: John/Dean/Sam
Spoilers: none; set between 1.20 Dead Man's Blood and 1.21 Salvation (now with magical stretchy-time!)
Notes: giftie forbeanside as part of the ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
spn_holidays ficathon. beanside provided the very specific prompt of 'Wincest (any kind)' *g*
Thank you toggreenapple for the incredibly prompt and useful beta, and to derryderrydown for general supportiveness :)
http://hope.oscillating.net/2007/01/01/fic-perhaps-perhaps-perhaps/
http://archiveofourown.org/works/381
angstslashhopeRating: NC-17
Pairing: John/Dean/Sam
Spoilers: none; set between 1.20 Dead Man's Blood and 1.21 Salvation (now with magical stretchy-time!)
Notes: giftie for
beanside as part of the spn_holidays ficathon. beanside provided the very specific prompt of 'Wincest (any kind)' *g*Thank you to
ggreenapple for the incredibly prompt and useful beta, and to derryderrydown for general supportiveness :)http://hope.oscillating.net/2007/01/01/fic-perhaps-perhaps-perhaps/
http://archiveofourown.org/works/381
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My brain is too mushy for more specific comments than that, sorry.
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I wrote this one, too! Only it kinda turned into some sort of magical-realist, pseudo-beat, symbolism-ahoy word-fest, and so I disowned it. (There were shining, snapping lines of come everywhere! Like a porn version of A River Runs Through It!)
I admire how you can always keep things so grounded, even when writing the uncommon, unexpected, or improbable scenarios.
Also: hot.
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At the end of the story, if Dean and Sam had've not left room in the bed, just ousted him once they were done with him, that would have been perfect for me ;)
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And this mirrors that nicely -- the way that John comes back finding things have changed; or at least, finally seeing his sons as men, not as children. And I love the way they push him -- at first subtly, and finally, physically.
And, in the end, they all sleep in the same bed. That's wonderful. Everyone with their place. John hasn't ceased to be a father, and Dean and Sam haven't ceased to be brothers or sons, but they've achieved a greater level of equality. Nice, nice.
I can see how people could argue that it's completely out of character, that "John would never do that," etc. But you already know I think they're missing the point.
I feel so weird trying to talk about other people's writing; like you'll just be reading this going, What a retard, she doesn't get what I was trying to do at all. But I kinda tend to think the authors intentions and the reader's perception have equal value. I.. think? you might agree with me on that one?
Wow, the more I talk the dumber I sound..
Okay, I shut up now.
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Yes, I totally agree with you on that one :D It's one of the reasons I love fanfiction so much! Once you release a text into the world, be it an 'official' one (like a TV show) or an 'unofficial' one (like fanfiction of a TV show), I reckon it takes on a life of its own and is no longer under the creator's control. I mean sure, they can edit or remove it (which is harder with TV than it is with fanfic), but in terms of how people read it, what they take from it... is something completely out of the creator's control. And I love that :D
And I have to say that I REALLY love it when people leave me comments like this, telling me what they made of a story. I dunno, I like to think that I let the characters take control of the story when I'm writing it, as opposed to me trying to make the characters do what I want, so I don't really get the 'right' or 'wrong' reading of a story. A lot of the time I don't even have a set idea of what the story 'is', with some of my fics, I enjoy re-reading them to take my own impressions! hee.
But I'm so glad that there was a solid reading to be made of this story. (You know how anxious I was about it!) I just... wasn't in the right headspace to write this kind of slash right now, but had to forge ahead anyhow, and I was worried that the characterisation was off because I did feel that I was trying to force them into a situation I wanted. So, I'm glad there's characterisation that's still salvageable, in there!!
Thank you :)
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I'm glad you get a kick out of the Johncest. Alas, not a lot of it around actual does get the tectonic plates grinding, in my experience.
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Movement in the corner of John’s eye as he checks for traffic; Dean’s hand on Sam’s thigh. Third time. John’s gaze flickers from it up to Dean’s face; Dean is staring right back at him, expression unreadable.
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John turns to face him and there’s nothing mysterious or even unfamiliar about Sammy’s expression at all, high flush and open mouth, soft amusement and an edge of defiance when he meets John’s eyes.
are my favourite moments of this fic. but i like it ALL! tense negotiation and recognition and envy and desire... and they're not under a curse! whee! i also like that you pay attention to what they're doing physically, and don't have any of those moments where you think, wait, what? how did they get into that position/get their clothes off/get to the bed? and body parts end up in odd/incidental places (noses in armpits), and it's ALL GOOD.
ok, stop distracting me. you know, i had a dream with JDM in it the other day. oh yes. he was in a debating team with lionel luthor. daddies of the cw, unite!
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Fuck. That was... intense. Awesome and wonderful but fucking crazy! I still squick out about parental incest but the way you did it was awesome... because there is no possible way you can write it without explaining the shame and all the strings attached.
You handled it very well.
♥
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Thank you! :D
PS. Yay dreams :D I had a john/dean/sam porny one the other night. \o/
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Hooray for crazy :D That's the Winchesters, alright.
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The tiniest of gestures – a brush of shoulders, a look across the diner table – now seems so loaded with meaning that he’s only just beginning to realize."
Loved that part. I also love the fact that Dean is so unapologetic about it and they don't even try to hide it.
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totally believable situationvery small space, and dean is really horny and the only place he can manage enough friction to get off is in sam's armpit. possibly while sam is passed out. and when they get out of thebelievable situationsmall space, sam's all "what is this in my armpit hair, dean?" and dean's like, "nuthin". and dean develops an armpit fixation and keeps trying to pick up women who have hairy underarms.he doesn't think about how hairy dad's armpits were, either.
o.o ... what? i'll be in the corner writing my thesis, and doing my best to lower the average standard of feedback comments on your fic.
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I love it! Thank you so much!
I just love this John, his discomfort, his shame at letting them touch him, and Dean with his uncertainty at first, that he really wants to, but he wants John to tell him it's all right, and Sam all strong and firm. It's lovely and wonderful and fucked up and very Winchester. *grin* It's perfect.
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there needs to be more armpit nuzzling in this fandom. And just general rubbing-against-pheremones that isn't so much about frottage as ... um, puppies?
I DON'T KNOW.
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Ummm, this is the first john fic i've read.....so very wrong.....
So how come I liked it so much? I feel a bit wierd about the fact that I enjoyed it, but I guess a few months ago I felt funny about reading my firt wincest fic, now I'm addicted.
Really well written :D
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I'm glad you enjoyed it, though. Thanks for persevering, and for coming back to comment :)
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